Blabla… he is sooo busy with his daytime job so that he cant post a single sentence here regarding the future of Vital ![]()
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He lost all his credibility with this “moves”.
Blabla… he is sooo busy with his daytime job so that he cant post a single sentence here regarding the future of Vital ![]()
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He lost all his credibility with this “moves”.
This answers questions - it’s still being worked on, great ![]()
Let me ask you all this:
What changes?
If Matt confirms he’s not working on Vital?
If Matt confirms he’s is still working on Vital?
Nothing really changes except your perspective? Version 1.5.5 is still current version
So with this in mind, go make music. Synth or no synth.
If you think Matt doesn’t deserve your support after giving us Helm, Vital, and more - just leave why post lol
All of us are here cause we care about Vital and still use it regularly. Please, it’s literally just a plug in, I beg you to go make music with whatever tools you have, Vital or not.
He has confirmed he’s still working on it, last updated in late 2023. Posting occasionally on a forum doesn’t correlate to whether someone is actively creating music.
Vital is a great/amazing plugin, and being interested in its development is perfectly OK as a community of music creators.
I’m currently using it while completing 4 sample packs this week, it’s great - I still allow myself time to occasionally check my emails, and thus see posts here, and respond. Everyone has their own lives and workflows! For a lot of of people different plugins and feature updates can bring inspiration/interest to their ongoing workflow - yes any tool could do the job and it’s best to master what you have but there’s no harm in asking if something new is round the corner.
This was 571 (!) days ago…
If anyone has actual contact with Matt, they should tell him , that clarification on the subject of “Vital”, is expected by many fans of his work.
Matt can say that he doesn’t yet what to do with “Vital”. He may say that the current version is sufficient. Or he can boast that there will be updates in some time. Or…
I was born in 1975 and I look at the development of synthesisers with detachment, and the current “Vital” is an amazing progression in terms of over 40 years, for those who make music. Others are looking for gadgets and “upgrades” because they have confused musical instrument with computer programs that require constant updates.
Such is life that projects emerge , develop and reach an end. Young children do not understand this.
that’s a lot of words for ‘I don’t get those new kids’. Jokes (and banter) aside, brands that produce hardware have always sought for progressing their own work, usually through new physical devices. technology develops and progresses. This can be a good thing, and has brought us many many developments in or toolsets and in music in general. electronic music incorporates technology, the two are intrinsically interwoven, whether or not you want them to be. Even acoustic instruments have developed, but at a slower rate over time. Over wise we would all still be playing lutes instead of guitars, harpsichords instead of keys etc.
For me “Vital” is a tool for making music. I have over 450 presets on it etc. I can modify them into thousands of presets. There is micro tuning. I can play with it for another 100 years[if the computer allows].
As you write yourself, development goes slowly and Vital is about 5 years old.
For me, the quality of the sounds hasn’t changed much over the last decade or so. You can listen to the old “Alchemy Player” from “Camel Audio”. There is a ne retro fashion at the moment.
I’m all for the development of music hardware and software. But I don’t want to force someone to update “Vital” when he has other development plans.After “Helm” came “Vital”. I think it’s a good swap and development.
Maybe there will be updates for “Vital”. Maybe others will do it. Or Maybe “Vital” will stay as it is and continue to be a usable instrument, like an acoustic harp from thousands of years ago.
I’m new here but I think I’ll answer your question.
No one here knows of any update from Matt and Matt probably doesn’t read this forum because he has other responsibilities.
If anyone has contact with Matt , they should ask him if he would like to inform the fans of his plans because they are getting impatient and some are even behaving rudely and ungratefully[which can be ignored]. ![]()
“This was 571 (!) days ago…” ~ Herold
One day will be the last perfect day and then the sun will start its nova phase and boil off all the water and turn the Earth into a crisp. So we won’t be able to count on new species versions anymore. Earth will ghost us and we’ll be forced to move to other planets that are still active with new species versions. But the cost to get there will be prohibitive for some. Hopefully there’s a free and maybe open source spaceship.
I saw Matt give an interview recently on Youtube. He is working on a new framework for video called Visage. He also mentioned he will be using it on a new project. I don’t know what the future of Vital is but I would imagine he will likely use Visage as he upgrades Vital and then works on the big backlog. Also, since he has some revenue coming in, I am hoping he would be able to hire someone that can help with the maintenance stuff. For example, Steve Duda has at least one other developer that is working on Serum and certainly fixing the bugs so Steve can focus on what’s most interesting to him. I am a software developer and fixing bugs sucks!
yeah great interview guys got a whole load of energy
~ Reality/Holistic Synthesis ~
I sort of glazed over when they started with the code, but might try to finish watching it later.
What I will say, though, is if Matt is also looking at Visage or whatever comes from/of it as more than a UI and more like something coming from the other side as it were, from the audio/sound/wave-design/environment-creation side…
IOW, if you can do fancy graphics with it, maybe you are able to do fancy sound with it too, in part by leveraging the codes behind the fancy graphics and the codes behind other fancy graphics— 3D, AI, video-synths, etc.-- that include/involve what I’ve recently been talking about hereon.
I posted a video recently of Matt doing some sort of golden swirly video-- Gold Water Dance-- and while that looks all fine and nice, perhaps especially if/where it’s live/realtime control, one wonders if/how it and that sort of thing could also be mapped or converted or whatever to sound/sound-design/realtime evolution.
Physical modeling synths ostensibly model particular acousic/electric-acoustic instruments or typical sound-sources, but everything-- the world-- seems to be a sound or wave source.
can’t really fix bugs in house even if you had some helpers, you need users out there finding all the edge cases no sane normal person would ever, am i right?
It will get there when it gets there. Matt owes us absolutely nothing. He has created a viable, accessible to everyone synthesizer on practically a donation basis. The absolute entitlement by some of the people replying to this thread is insane to me. The industry as a whole would price gouge the hell out of a plugin with the amount of quality put into this one, and matt’s just giving it away for everyone. He’s one guy, and a human with a life outside of this software at that. Let the man take a rest.
Those who shout the loudest are those who have given nothing to others for free.
E’ strano leggere di numerosi utenti che vogliono aggiornamenti come se il synth non fosse in grado di generare sonorita pazzesche, inusuali…mi piacerebbe sentire le musiche che poi loro fanno con Vital per scoprire magari che a malapena sanno suonare o articolare 4 accordi per fare una musica!!!Ho sentito dire su questo forum che Vital con tutti questi suoni effettati come dubstep techno non ci fai niente! ma allora usate le vostre vst su Fl studio o Reason ,cosi siete a posto , avrete i vostri analog brass, i finti piano, i finti violini e sarete a posto…è sempre così quando uno regala, gli altri ci sputano sopra e pretendono.Compratevi Serum ( che tralatro non centra nulla con vital)COMPLIMENTI AI CREATORI DI VITAL.L’UNICA VST GRATIS DALLE PROPIETA DI GRAN LUNGA SUPERIORI DELLE VST A PAGAMENTO escludendone alcune come Avenger,Omnisphere,Synplant2
It’s amazing the amount of users here happy to condescend and essentially put a negative take on those they know nothing about in order to support what may well be abandon ware. Vital is a powerful and awesome synth in any regard, and Matt Tytel is an awesome and generous developer . Huge respect to the work he’s achieved and generosity that he’s put into Vital, by making it freely available.
Many users have paid and have feature requests for further development, there’s even an entire section dedicated to this right here in this very forum. Putting down other users without having any knowledge/understanding of individual use cases or redirecting to other synths (which many, like myself, already own) and arguing is not the aim of this topic. There are bug fixes and feature requests that are more than fair to request for paid customers.
As someone who paid in Oct 24, '21, I think it has been money well spent. They complain as if this magical synth with change everything for them.
Hey I’m just wondering if there’ll be an update for macOS 26 so that the vital app logo in my dock doesnt have that lame grey space around it. Seems like there’s a lot of drama happening here… I’m just a happy newbie who paid for pro. Idek how to use Vital but everyone said it’s a great synth and I like the way it looks. One thing I wish was different is that a lot of presets seem too loud by default and kinda clip so I find myself choosing a preset, lowering the volume slider thing in the upper rightish area, then trying some keys. Anyway hope everyone’s doing ok and thanks Matt!