When is a new version arriving?

Why get upset. I wrote my opinion and you may have a different one. That is, you think that spending an extra $25/$75 means eternal support. And the current version according to you is weak.
I myself added over 450 presets and some 200 wavetables to the free version of “Vital”, as well as some skins. So you yourself could expand “Vital” without paying and not resent the few $.

Yeah especially H. G. Fortune synths. I sincerely believe that they’re timeless art. There are things that transcends fidelity.

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The acoustic harp has been around for thousands of years and is still in use today.

Guys these threads really don’t do anything to help it’s just in-fighting
Either keep using vital as is, or don’t. It’s really not hard - No one is arguing against an update from Matt would be super helpful

But please atleast complain on discord where he’ll have a chance of seeing it lol
The forums are not activate there’s like 10 of us here man its been like that since 2020

The fact that you inheritently compare Vital to Serum, a $250 USD synth - just goes to show how high vital punches above its weight class.

Vital IS cheap, it’s free. Paid tiers give you access to bonus material, that’s all.

I’m not mad I paid for Camelphat back in the day
Same goes with some Native Instruments products, iZotope, sonic Anomaly, etc etc

I can name tons of stuff I’ve bought where support and updates just stop - or can’t use because of a bug

Like I’m sorry, but also like welcome to software plugins?? :man_shrugging:

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One chooses “Vital”, another prefers the $250 “Serum”. Someone likes plums and someone prefers pears. It’s good that there is a choice. A meeting of 10 people can be nice too.

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OK just dropping in - this thread was written simply as a request for information, not as a platform for arguing, debate, complaints etc! It would be great if Matt could weigh in on progress/news, but either way he’s not obligated too, despite the fact that this is his (highly skilled and generous) work.

I’d love to hear how Matts doing and if he has future plans for Vital development/support - it’s an incredible, powerful professional synth and sound design tool in its own right and will have contributed towards the democratisation of music tech for a large amount of people over the last 5 years.

Information is often released if support officially ends on a plugin, so if that is the case it would be great to hear too, as that would end possible speculation in that scenario.

Respect to everyone here - I’m also going to check the discord as I haven’t checked it out yet.

Cheers

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Blabla… he is sooo busy with his daytime job so that he cant post a single sentence here regarding the future of Vital :see_no_evil::rofl::person_facepalming:

He lost all his credibility with this “moves”.

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This answers questions - it’s still being worked on, great :slight_smile:

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Let me ask you all this:
What changes?

If Matt confirms he’s not working on Vital?
If Matt confirms he’s is still working on Vital?

Nothing really changes except your perspective? Version 1.5.5 is still current version

So with this in mind, go make music. Synth or no synth.

If you think Matt doesn’t deserve your support after giving us Helm, Vital, and more - just leave why post lol

All of us are here cause we care about Vital and still use it regularly. Please, it’s literally just a plug in, I beg you to go make music with whatever tools you have, Vital or not.

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He has confirmed he’s still working on it, last updated in late 2023. Posting occasionally on a forum doesn’t correlate to whether someone is actively creating music.
Vital is a great/amazing plugin, and being interested in its development is perfectly OK as a community of music creators.
I’m currently using it while completing 4 sample packs this week, it’s great - I still allow myself time to occasionally check my emails, and thus see posts here, and respond. Everyone has their own lives and workflows! For a lot of of people different plugins and feature updates can bring inspiration/interest to their ongoing workflow - yes any tool could do the job and it’s best to master what you have but there’s no harm in asking if something new is round the corner.

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This was 571 (!) days ago…

If anyone has actual contact with Matt, they should tell him , that clarification on the subject of “Vital”, is expected by many fans of his work.
Matt can say that he doesn’t yet what to do with “Vital”. He may say that the current version is sufficient. Or he can boast that there will be updates in some time. Or…
I was born in 1975 and I look at the development of synthesisers with detachment, and the current “Vital” is an amazing progression in terms of over 40 years, for those who make music. Others are looking for gadgets and “upgrades” because they have confused musical instrument with computer programs that require constant updates.
Such is life that projects emerge , develop and reach an end. Young children do not understand this.

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that’s a lot of words for ‘I don’t get those new kids’. Jokes (and banter) aside, brands that produce hardware have always sought for progressing their own work, usually through new physical devices. technology develops and progresses. This can be a good thing, and has brought us many many developments in or toolsets and in music in general. electronic music incorporates technology, the two are intrinsically interwoven, whether or not you want them to be. Even acoustic instruments have developed, but at a slower rate over time. Over wise we would all still be playing lutes instead of guitars, harpsichords instead of keys etc.

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For me “Vital” is a tool for making music. I have over 450 presets on it etc. I can modify them into thousands of presets. There is micro tuning. I can play with it for another 100 years[if the computer allows].
As you write yourself, development goes slowly and Vital is about 5 years old.
For me, the quality of the sounds hasn’t changed much over the last decade or so. You can listen to the old “Alchemy Player” from “Camel Audio”. There is a ne retro fashion at the moment.
I’m all for the development of music hardware and software. But I don’t want to force someone to update “Vital” when he has other development plans.After “Helm” came “Vital”. I think it’s a good swap and development.
Maybe there will be updates for “Vital”. Maybe others will do it. Or Maybe “Vital” will stay as it is and continue to be a usable instrument, like an acoustic harp from thousands of years ago.

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I’m new here but I think I’ll answer your question.
No one here knows of any update from Matt and Matt probably doesn’t read this forum because he has other responsibilities.
If anyone has contact with Matt , they should ask him if he would like to inform the fans of his plans because they are getting impatient and some are even behaving rudely and ungratefully[which can be ignored]. :wink:

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“This was 571 (!) days ago…” ~ Herold

One day will be the last perfect day and then the sun will start its nova phase and boil off all the water and turn the Earth into a crisp. So we won’t be able to count on new species versions anymore. Earth will ghost us and we’ll be forced to move to other planets that are still active with new species versions. But the cost to get there will be prohibitive for some. Hopefully there’s a free and maybe open source spaceship.

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I saw Matt give an interview recently on Youtube. He is working on a new framework for video called Visage. He also mentioned he will be using it on a new project. I don’t know what the future of Vital is but I would imagine he will likely use Visage as he upgrades Vital and then works on the big backlog. Also, since he has some revenue coming in, I am hoping he would be able to hire someone that can help with the maintenance stuff. For example, Steve Duda has at least one other developer that is working on Serum and certainly fixing the bugs so Steve can focus on what’s most interesting to him. I am a software developer and fixing bugs sucks!

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yeah great interview guys got a whole load of energy

~ Reality/Holistic Synthesis ~

I sort of glazed over when they started with the code, but might try to finish watching it later.

What I will say, though, is if Matt is also looking at Visage or whatever comes from/of it as more than a UI and more like something coming from the other side as it were, from the audio/sound/wave-design/environment-creation side…

IOW, if you can do fancy graphics with it, maybe you are able to do fancy sound with it too, in part by leveraging the codes behind the fancy graphics and the codes behind other fancy graphics— 3D, AI, video-synths, etc.-- that include/involve what I’ve recently been talking about hereon.

I posted a video recently of Matt doing some sort of golden swirly video-- Gold Water Dance-- and while that looks all fine and nice, perhaps especially if/where it’s live/realtime control, one wonders if/how it and that sort of thing could also be mapped or converted or whatever to sound/sound-design/realtime evolution.

Physical modeling synths ostensibly model particular acousic/electric-acoustic instruments or typical sound-sources, but everything-- the world-- seems to be a sound or wave source.

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can’t really fix bugs in house even if you had some helpers, you need users out there finding all the edge cases no sane normal person would ever, am i right?