When is a new version arriving?

Are you Matt or a friend of him? :wink: Sounds kind of like that .-)

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I’ve never met Matt. I’ve been using the “Vital” plug-in for a while now, as I previously had the studio on an older computer. I use micro tuning and Vital is irreplaceable for me. You can always search for my profiles as “afikcja Internet Archive”. I live in Poland.
All I know is that people doing something free for people are usually kind to others. And the resentment often comes from those who don’t do anything good for others and just say “give, give, give, and I won’t give anything”.
Matt abandoned “Helm” and a better “Vital” was born.

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So I find it really quite funny why Matt is defended here every time.

Sure, he provided the synth for free. Of course these users are not allowed to demand anything. But what about the hundreds of buyers of the non-free versions?

You hear people saying things like “you only paid for the presets”, but not for the synth itself.

1.5.5 is not available on Github, otherwise the community could have developed Vital further.

That’s what 90% of this is about: people want to know whether there will be updates or not. Matt could confirm or deny this within a minute. That would clarify the matter and no one would have to guess whether something is coming again… and would feel like they were being taken for a ride.

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I also wrote that it would be good for Matt to say what he wants to do next. And if Matt doesn’t want to develop “Vital” anymore, he might actually let “Vital” be developed by others[although that’s his decision].
Matt didn’t order anyone to buy extra presets and the “paid” versions were relatively cheap, so it’s hard to expect eternal support.
Sometimes the defence is that we listen to others and recognise that the pretensions make sense, or that they don’t. In the case of a synth like “Vital”, criticism is pointless, since the current version is exceptionally good and it’s no coincidence that so many new sound banks are being created, since it’s so easy to create sounds[even I can as a musician]. This means that “Vital” will live a long time with new presets, skins and music to be created by people from all over the world. Not everyone is rich and “Vital” for the poor is a powerful tool to create music at the highest level. And that’s why there are people who will defend Matt, without self-interest.

Cheap? I should have invested the money in serum instead, because at least there’s SUPPORT and UPDATES!

I don’t care anymore, I’m out of here.

A disappointed Vital user

Why get upset. I wrote my opinion and you may have a different one. That is, you think that spending an extra $25/$75 means eternal support. And the current version according to you is weak.
I myself added over 450 presets and some 200 wavetables to the free version of “Vital”, as well as some skins. So you yourself could expand “Vital” without paying and not resent the few $.

Yeah especially H. G. Fortune synths. I sincerely believe that they’re timeless art. There are things that transcends fidelity.

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The acoustic harp has been around for thousands of years and is still in use today.

Guys these threads really don’t do anything to help it’s just in-fighting
Either keep using vital as is, or don’t. It’s really not hard - No one is arguing against an update from Matt would be super helpful

But please atleast complain on discord where he’ll have a chance of seeing it lol
The forums are not activate there’s like 10 of us here man its been like that since 2020

The fact that you inheritently compare Vital to Serum, a $250 USD synth - just goes to show how high vital punches above its weight class.

Vital IS cheap, it’s free. Paid tiers give you access to bonus material, that’s all.

I’m not mad I paid for Camelphat back in the day
Same goes with some Native Instruments products, iZotope, sonic Anomaly, etc etc

I can name tons of stuff I’ve bought where support and updates just stop - or can’t use because of a bug

Like I’m sorry, but also like welcome to software plugins?? :man_shrugging:

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One chooses “Vital”, another prefers the $250 “Serum”. Someone likes plums and someone prefers pears. It’s good that there is a choice. A meeting of 10 people can be nice too.

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OK just dropping in - this thread was written simply as a request for information, not as a platform for arguing, debate, complaints etc! It would be great if Matt could weigh in on progress/news, but either way he’s not obligated too, despite the fact that this is his (highly skilled and generous) work.

I’d love to hear how Matts doing and if he has future plans for Vital development/support - it’s an incredible, powerful professional synth and sound design tool in its own right and will have contributed towards the democratisation of music tech for a large amount of people over the last 5 years.

Information is often released if support officially ends on a plugin, so if that is the case it would be great to hear too, as that would end possible speculation in that scenario.

Respect to everyone here - I’m also going to check the discord as I haven’t checked it out yet.

Cheers

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Blabla… he is sooo busy with his daytime job so that he cant post a single sentence here regarding the future of Vital :see_no_evil::rofl::person_facepalming:

He lost all his credibility with this “moves”.

This answers questions - it’s still being worked on, great :slight_smile:

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Let me ask you all this:
What changes?

If Matt confirms he’s not working on Vital?
If Matt confirms he’s is still working on Vital?

Nothing really changes except your perspective? Version 1.5.5 is still current version

So with this in mind, go make music. Synth or no synth.

If you think Matt doesn’t deserve your support after giving us Helm, Vital, and more - just leave why post lol

All of us are here cause we care about Vital and still use it regularly. Please, it’s literally just a plug in, I beg you to go make music with whatever tools you have, Vital or not.

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He has confirmed he’s still working on it, last updated in late 2023. Posting occasionally on a forum doesn’t correlate to whether someone is actively creating music.
Vital is a great/amazing plugin, and being interested in its development is perfectly OK as a community of music creators.
I’m currently using it while completing 4 sample packs this week, it’s great - I still allow myself time to occasionally check my emails, and thus see posts here, and respond. Everyone has their own lives and workflows! For a lot of of people different plugins and feature updates can bring inspiration/interest to their ongoing workflow - yes any tool could do the job and it’s best to master what you have but there’s no harm in asking if something new is round the corner.

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This was 571 (!) days ago…

If anyone has actual contact with Matt, they should tell him , that clarification on the subject of “Vital”, is expected by many fans of his work.
Matt can say that he doesn’t yet what to do with “Vital”. He may say that the current version is sufficient. Or he can boast that there will be updates in some time. Or…
I was born in 1975 and I look at the development of synthesisers with detachment, and the current “Vital” is an amazing progression in terms of over 40 years, for those who make music. Others are looking for gadgets and “upgrades” because they have confused musical instrument with computer programs that require constant updates.
Such is life that projects emerge , develop and reach an end. Young children do not understand this.

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that’s a lot of words for ‘I don’t get those new kids’. Jokes (and banter) aside, brands that produce hardware have always sought for progressing their own work, usually through new physical devices. technology develops and progresses. This can be a good thing, and has brought us many many developments in or toolsets and in music in general. electronic music incorporates technology, the two are intrinsically interwoven, whether or not you want them to be. Even acoustic instruments have developed, but at a slower rate over time. Over wise we would all still be playing lutes instead of guitars, harpsichords instead of keys etc.

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For me “Vital” is a tool for making music. I have over 450 presets on it etc. I can modify them into thousands of presets. There is micro tuning. I can play with it for another 100 years[if the computer allows].
As you write yourself, development goes slowly and Vital is about 5 years old.
For me, the quality of the sounds hasn’t changed much over the last decade or so. You can listen to the old “Alchemy Player” from “Camel Audio”. There is a ne retro fashion at the moment.
I’m all for the development of music hardware and software. But I don’t want to force someone to update “Vital” when he has other development plans.After “Helm” came “Vital”. I think it’s a good swap and development.
Maybe there will be updates for “Vital”. Maybe others will do it. Or Maybe “Vital” will stay as it is and continue to be a usable instrument, like an acoustic harp from thousands of years ago.

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I’m new here but I think I’ll answer your question.
No one here knows of any update from Matt and Matt probably doesn’t read this forum because he has other responsibilities.
If anyone has contact with Matt , they should ask him if he would like to inform the fans of his plans because they are getting impatient and some are even behaving rudely and ungratefully[which can be ignored]. :wink:

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