DAW crashes when opening Vital v1.5x (all versions): STILL NOT FIXED

Hello!

Mine crashes instantly on my account, running 1.0.7 here with the following hardware:
Ryzen 5 3600
RTX 2060
Ableton Live 11

It crashes on both the standalone and plugin.
I tried on another admin account on my pc, and it works fine.

Any ideas?

Back up your presets and try 1.5.5 install if you can
Otherwise have you reinstalled 1.0.7?
Also check for any graphics /drivers updates if you can

1.5.5 Worked for me, thanks.

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Happy to hear!

I wouldn’t go this far. The open sourced version is three years old and the software continued to be produced in closed source form. He also said at the outset he’s not accepting pull request This is EXACTLY the reason why Vitalium is a non-thing. FLOSS community is not a one way street and Matt chose not to participate.

It’s his right, don’t get me wrong. I supported Vital (with not much, a Plus license) because of his decision to open source one version of it, and I am not bashing him for deciding not to participate, but it is fair to say he deliberately chose not to.

Hi bmarkovic.79. Unsure exactly what you’re saying, and it doesn’t help that this convo’s a year old.
In any case, I’m kind of aware of Vital’s ‘odd status’ as ‘kind of closed’ and ‘kind of open source’, but in any case, it’s free. In fact, if you pirate stuff too, then just about everything’s free-- as it should be-- you know, like apples, meat, the sun, soil and the rain. So, what the hell. And so don’t believe the bullshit that some head-up-assers tell you that there’s no free lunch. They just want you to join them too in shoving your head up your ass with them,

How are you enjoying Vital by the way? Is it a glorified sampler or are those waveforms actually composed of proper sine waves? I’m a bit of a purist in some ways I suppose and cannot be bothered by samplers/romplers.

I have yet to really delve into Vital, given my troubles with Windows 11 locking me out of my own computer. Now I have LInux and am about to possibly scrap even a VirtualBox with Windows 11 in it if I can manage some concessions.

Lastly, is it my imagination or has commercial music software development or at least their releases slowed down to a trickle, maybe since the recent AI hoopla?

My point was mostly (being a software developer working for an Open Core model company) that unless your latest version of the open part is available under a FLOSS license, and there’s a way for your users to send in patches (and you’ll take the time to merge the ones that make sense in), you’re not really an open source product.

And if you accept patches then there’s absolutely no sense in not having the latest version out because what’s the point of people only being able to e.g. fix bugs in years old version.

Charging for the product has nothing to do with it being or not being open source. We charge for ours, and yet the open core of it is truly open in both those senses (people are buying peace of mind, support and enterprise extensions made with deep expertise around the core product, I’m aware this model wouldn’t work for Vital but it’s a freeware program, so whatever motivated me to shell out for a Plus license would work even if Vital was fully open source).

As I said, i’ts Matt’s full right to roll the way he does, but Vital is not a FLOSS software product, as it is right now.

Thanks for the elaboration, bmarkovic.79. I’m leaning toward Surge XT, at least on Linux, anyway, especially if it’s ‘properly’ FLOSS. Is it? LOL
I might nevertheless look into Vitalium out of curiosity to see what they’re doing, if anything. If I decide on a wavetable synth (more unlikely these days), I might steer myself toward that recently open-sourced one, Vaporizer2, (especially if it’s ‘properly’ FLOSS. Is it? LOL) ← preset
That’s once I migrate to Linux, exclusively this time, so without the Virtualbox with Windows in it nonsense. Microsoft policies WRT Windows 11 have become increasingly invasive (privacy) and nailed-down. Seems they, including Apple, want to turn people’s computers more into cellphones or ‘appliances’.
What a headache. Software wasn’t supposed to be this way, was it? It’s just crony-capitalist plutarchy and its monetary bribes and commodifications running everything into the ground. Not like good compost, though, but like toxins.

Software just enabled all these shitty practices. In the core of it is just late stage capitalism and all the economical and ideological garbage it comes bundled with.

But we’re off the rails now. Let’s at least stick to the topic of Vital :sweat_smile:

Matt is a small indie developer. I don’t have any gripes with his choices. I don’t think they are bad for the society, they’re perhaps bad for the product. But I understand how they can be beneficial for his peace of mind. Sole-rider open source can be bad for your mental health as well, with all the entitled freeloader mentality that comes with it, sometimes closing yourself off from the community can be a good way to have personal peace.

But I always like to think that freeware has no benefits over an IP protective copyleft license such as GPL – you’re not really giving away anything other than the ability to share the load (not that it always pans out, or even often, but neither does that big payday of some big corp licensing your IP that you kept to yourself, I’d argue the latter is much less likely than the former).

I’m with you there, makes sense.