“Vital” in music making

‘Vital’ is now several years old[2020]. :clock430:
Many people have tested it in practice and probably created good music.
:cd: :infinity:
‘Vital’ has great possibilities in creating things like :
1)sound[sampler and 3 oscillators freely modifiable],
2)space[reverb and stereo panning],
3)rhythm[precise envelope shaping],
4)harmony and melody[micro tuning].
A good and experienced musician can use this as a powerful tool.
So anyone who has been working on “Vital” for a few years and has created something amazing, can write how “Vital” has contributed to this.
I’m just getting started with “Vital” [2025]and would love to hear from more experienced colleagues. :100: :eye_in_speech_bubble: :bomb: :man_mage: :elephant: :banana: :earth_asia:

What kind of music do you make? I’d be happy to suggest some fun ideas for creating sounds if you are looking for inspiration for noodling around (noodling = się wygłupiac? Sorry not good with Polish)

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This is not a thread about me, but about music practice. To attract musicians here, instead of trolls just combining as to make a few $$$. :mouse2:
Let those who use “Vital” in music production over several years of experience write.
I make multi-dimensional mystical music using acoustics and electronics.
You can find what I do on albums such as “afikcja I am Absolute - nonduality[additional tracks]”.
I intend to include “Vital” in the future using fairly simple techniques with external effects[like reverb] and variety achieved with precise modification in MIDI notation and using automation in the DAW. From ‘Vital’ I take micro tuning and base presets for basses, pads and bells. :sun_with_face:

Yes very “elevating consciousness” type music, with blends of orthodox religion and eastern religions influences it sounds like? based on listening to your album very quickly :slight_smile:

I recommend trying out the resynthesize patch to wavetable function, if you keep the patches fairly simple, the resampling will be easier to control but this will allow you to layer micro tunings on top of each other, which might help create some beautiful pads and atmospheres

I’ve used vital since release it works great for everything: dnb, ukg, dub/dub techno, ambient, and more

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I’ve been in reggae/dub music since 1988[there are also old recordings from Poland on my profile]. You can show your music and write what was using “Vital”.

I found a “resynthesize preset to wavetable” and it’s possible it could be useful , although I tried it and the results were so-so[but I’m just learning].

For now I’m reworking others’ presets, adding other wavetables and discarding “LFOs”, “Macros”, effects etc, achieving simple pads as further layers added to other synths and samplers[violins, guitars etc]. ‘Vital’ alone isn’t enough. I don’t use loops too much, but extensive MIDI notation and this creates an overall composition[using 24 tones per octave]. Others, for simple loops and simple chords, need an extended “LFO” on the chords. And this is where “Vital” helps them.

I look for a nice “wavetable” first and then modify it as much as I can[unison, filter…] and then add external effects.
In my opinion, the “reverb” in “Vital” is not perfect and I get better results when I use an external “reverb”.

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I agree, Vitals reverb is decent but not great, fine to add depth in a sound, but to place your sound in the mix of your track, I also lean towards other external reverbs.
That said, I like Vitals reverb more than Serum, although Serum 2 I do enjoy the Convolution device

I also like to load chord or pad samples into Vitals sampler or a vocal sample, can be fun to mess around with!

Edit: yeah the resynthesize is okay, but you can get some cool results! I’ve actually used it more for creating wavetables to use later

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We make music in which ‘reverb’ is often heavily exploited, so we have different requirements. This ‘reverb’ from ‘Vital’ is good, as evidenced by the ‘presets’ they made on it and it sounds at a high level. But good is the enemy of best.

For me, playing with the sampler can be treated as a separate track, without oscillators, because I prefer to divide it. Then I make a separate ‘MIDI’ notation and precisely adjust the effects. I have other external samplers and I don’t know if the one from ‘Vital’ will give me anything. Time will tell. It is best to paste samples on separate tracks [without the sampler] because they have the best quality. Unless you need a melody, then at the expense of quality you can play around.

I usually turn off the sampler from the presets in ‘Vital’ [I usually treat noisy waves and gusts of wind as dirt, not fitting my concept].

There’s never too many reverbs on one’s collection lol. But Vital’s reverb suits me really well. It’s not the most natural space builder, but a super smooth fx reverb. There’s a reason it’s a synth effect. Go try Serum 2 reverb, that hardly sounds like a reverb at all. Vital’s reverb excels in stuff like psytrance, ambient, techno, and generally in electronic music that uses whacky synthetic sounds and effects. Judging it as a mixing reverb does not do it justice imho.

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I haven’t created anything amazing, but I’ve been addicted to creating sounds and even some music with computers for some decades now.

To me Vital is mostly about intuition, experimentation and making sounds alive with modulation. Intuition, because the interface allows fast and fluid realization of ideas. Experimentation, because the intuitiveness and the modulation system allows effortless testing and exploring. These build up to patches that change shape in a purposeful way, on their own and through automation. Tytel has managed to mitigate barriers of soundcraft with the UI and the flow of the synth. That’s why I enjoy it so much.

Also, it sounds lovely.

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As I wrote, there is a useful reverb in ‘Vital’ and people have made great presets with it. However, in a collection of dozens of reverbs, I also have some that I like better , so I just turn off the reverb from ‘Vital’ to avoid overdrive and chaos. It is possible that sometimes it is the reverb from Vital that will win the competition in some case. Because one is always looking for symbiosis with other sounds and one never knows what will ultimately fit[like a puzzle]. In general, ‘Vital’ has effects at a high level and that puts it in the top league of ‘VSTs’. And the advantage of the internal effects is that you can control them while playing on the ‘MIDI’ keyboard using the modulation wheel, for example, increasing the length of the reverb. Then such solos played live can make a song more ‘human’, less mathematical[just like live instruments and vocals].

For me, ‘Vital’, through the interface , is the easiest ‘VST’ to make new sounds and transform other sounds. That’s one of the pluses, that is, lots of possibilities given in such a way that even a non-engineer can make the kind of changes he wants to have. This ease has resulted in thousands of free presets, including hundreds of very good ones. And anyone who gets to know ‘Vital’, these good presets can modify at will. And that’s how ‘Vital’ became number 1.
In my opinion, three oscillators are enough for one ‘VST’. If someone wants more, he can hook up a second 'VST to another track.

[HermanVonElsewhere] ‘I haven’t created anything amazing’
To create something amazing, you need a lot of humility and modesty and a lot of experience. This you have already shown us. You never know what tomorrow will bring. Creation is a grace , which may or may not come. The important thing is to have fun and do what you like.
I, from childhood, was inspired to make music. But an example to this day I do not have a driver’s license. Something for something.