Still struggling with the filter envelope

Hello,

I’m still struggling with the filter envelope :frowning:

I’m currently trying to adapt a V-Station patch to Vital again.

The osc settings (waveforms, transpose, volume) are identical, as is the amplitude envelope (=Env 1) and it sounds like this unfiltered (first V-Station, then Vital):

As you can probably hear, there are already audible differences here (Vital more harsh/digital). Possibly phase settings? Both plugins have the same default phase settings.

I also adopted the filter settings as best as possible (24 db analog), but here too Vital sounds very harsh and somehow lacks treble:)

Settings of the V-Station filter (nothing special here):

Filter_Setting_V-Station

Does anyone here have any ideas on how to make the patch sound even more identical?

Bass.vital (395.3 KB)

Thank you very much!

Hey - sorry which is the sound you’re trying to recreate?

Edit: sorry I understand your clips now.
Yes it sounds like the Vital filter env is too much, too short/too quick, which also removes the high end, id play with the curve of the decay slope - to me that small change makes it closer to your desired patch.
You could also bend the curve in the Matrix mapping, which also can achieve the desired effect. After playing with the curves, you may need to add or remove a tiny amount of decay :slight_smile: Hope this helps!

Honestly, you’ve recreated it perfectly it’s just gonna be those small tweaks that make it that extra bit

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Hello Larry,

thanks for your research and tips :slight_smile:

Yes, it’s 95% similar, but on good headphones you can clearly hear the remaining differences.

Maybe I should also sample the four waveforms of the V-Station and create a vital wavetable for it…

Definitely a great option! I’ve imported a few analogue wave tables into vital for that exact reason, sometimes there’s just something about the original Massive wavetable that has it, yknow?

Also not familiar with v station sorry, but if it’s analogue-esque there could be drive/saturation at various stages.
Also try maybe the Ladder filter or Digital see if its a bit closer?

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